whereas in the first term of the obama administration we have had 12,649 new regulations. so there is a big difference. >> we have 4200 pending regulations. that is tremendous uncertainty for small businesses to have to deal with it. one of the things we want to make sure, when we talk about, and we hear our candidates talking, whoever is going to be in the next administration, we want to insure that we have a commitment that they're going to come in and do some of that spring cleaning. david: let's hope. >> we're not just looking for agencies to come tell us all what they have on their books, that their books are full. we want to hear them saying they will be cleaning out and doing the spring cleaning and set into place a whole new regime how regulations will be built. and small businesses will have a place at that table. david: let's hope they do. senator blanche lincoln trying to make sure they will from the national federation of independent businesses. good to see you, senator. thanks for coming in. >> you bet. best way to put the economy on track. liz: what was the w